In this episode, Phillip Wylie interviews Wirefall, a veteran in the pen testing industry, discussing his journey from a curious child to a seasoned professional. They explore the evolution of pen testing tools, the impact of compliance on testing practices, and the importance of community engagement in cybersecurity. Wirefall shares insights on starting a career in pen testing, the significance of the Dallas Hackers Association, and how improv has transformed his approach to public speaking and adaptability in the field. The conversation emphasizes the need for trust, communication, and a supportive community in the cybersecurity landscape.
Takeaways
• We are all born hackers, driven by curiosity.
• The evolution of tools has made pen testing both easier and more complex.
• Compliance often leads to unrealistic pen testing scopes.
• Trust is essential when engaging penetration testers.
• Networking is crucial for career advancement in cybersecurity.
• The Dallas Hackers Association fosters community and learning.
• Improv can enhance adaptability and public speaking skills.
• Community engagement is vital for personal and professional growth.
• Ransomware has shifted the focus back to full-scope testing.
• Be excellent to each other to maintain a positive community.
Sound Bites
• "We are all born hackers."
• "DHA is a cyber circus."
• "It's a journey."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Wirefall and Pen Testing Journey
02:10 The Hacker Origin Story
08:34 First Paid Pen Testing Job
11:05 Evolution of Pen Testing Tools
15:31 Compliance and Its Impact on Pen Testing
20:44 Advice for Engaging Pen Testers
25:02 Starting a Career in Pen Testing
27:43 The Dallas Hackers Association
41:30 The Power of Improv in Hacking
52:37 Community and Conduct in Cybersecurity
Resources
https://x.com/DHAhole
https://x.com/Dallas_Hackers
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